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chantilly



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been staring at these cows for most of the day and I have no idea what to do. (They're eyes seem to be following me around the room and I swear they're mocking me!). The few ideas I did have failed miserably.

Anyone willing to give a hint please?
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MorFF



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi chantilly, welcome to bimbogami and congratulations on getting this far without having to post to the forum.

Are the cows saying anything to you yet, then you should really be worried! lol

bimbogami says he knows of a saying: similarity breeds contempt. but I think being japanese that he gets his phrases mixed up sometimes.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.

I have thought about the piece of advice given by Bimbogami and although I think I understand the sentiment of what he is saying, I still can't find a way of forming a suitable answer. I have done some filling in of my own and have made lots of pretty patterns, some which look vaguely familiar and others which look like nothing on earth lol. I'm not at all confident that what I'm doing is correct and I'm afraid I'm no nearer solving than I was nearly 24 hours ago. Crying or Very sad Can Bimbogami spare any more gems of wisdom please?

Edit: Forgot to say - an excellent set of puzzles, am thoroughly enjoying them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been disturbed from my meditation to address the plight of a challenger.

i see you are experienced in the ways of puzzling and will not require too much guidance to progress beyond this particular enigma. you have been successful in moodoku #2's predecessor in round 1 but are finding this one a little more challenging.

my advice to you, my pupil, is that all animals are equal but some animals are less equal than others.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice. I'm wondering now whether I completed the first Moodoku correctly as I only used a selection of the cows to solve and the others were ignored (which I thought was strange at the time). Maybe they are solved similarly and it's that method which I'm missing? Your advice sounds like I should be looking for subtle differences but I've found nothing even after zooming in and studying individual pixels Confused Did I say I dreamed of cows last night? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first moodoku is a standard sudoku style puzzle, albeit with letters, you can take the time to solve it if you so wish, but as you say it can be short-cut a little.

This is also a standard sudoku style puzzle but, as you have found you need to know where to start. Everything you need is there, you just need to dig a little deeper <snip> to find the differences.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, nowhere near solving yet, but I think I finally see what you're getting at and what I need to do. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further to my previous post, if you solved Moodoku #1 completely, by filling the spaces of the grid with letters, you would have seen the answer writ large along the centre of the grid.

Once you're on the right path, it will all click into place and you will be saved.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew, and finally!

Thank you SO much.

Methinks Bimbogami is VERY sneaky Razz Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I see what Chantilly was talking about.

I have examined these cows even on the HTML level. There are no clues to be had. Remembering my lessons learned in a dream (bimbogami's, not mine), I tried "participating" in the "pasture" as well as I could. I couldn't even find a cow pie.

I cannot seem to figure out how some cows could be "more equal than others." I am out of ways to "dig deeper." My friends have gone on to other puzzles without me...

At least I am outstanding in my field... Very Happy

But could the wise puzzle master lend me a cow pie or something?
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bimbogami



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barjesse37 wrote:
But could the wise puzzle master lend me a cow pie or something?
i am somewhat concerned that morff has already said too much. i suggest you examine his posts carefully, particularly the last one. the way is clear, but clarity of vision is essential...

as for chantilly's suggestion that i am in some way sneaky, i shall choose to take this as a compliment.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: sneaky? Reply with quote

bimbogami wrote:
"as for chantilly's suggestion that i am in some way sneaky, i shall choose to take this as a compliment."

As well you should, sir!

(Incidentally, I do agree about one cloned cow being very like another...)

But, yes, you should take "sneaky" as a compliment. There is simply no better word for it.

I just hope I don't have to go digging in cow pastures again... Smile Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That one was GREAT! Really tough to start with, but a thoroughly good puzzle, which was logical...if the aforementioned sneaky Wink Thumbs up!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really confused!!! All the cows are exactly the same!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are cloned cows, so you would expect them to look the same! Smile
But they're not exactly the same in every sense.

The big clues are already there, in the above posts...

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